Carnival of Personal Finance #263 – Upstate Edition

I just got back from a week long trip to visit family in upstate New York. Ever since I left the great state of New York people always ask where I am from. My answer is simply, New York. I can’t even count how many times I have been asked what it was like to live in a city that big. The fact is I have never even been to New York city. I grew up in upstate New York where Canada is closer than the city and the shores of Lake Ontario were where we spent our summer days (if we were lucky). This week my theme is a tribute to the often overlooked piece of New York.

The image above outlines the “pieces” of New York, I spent the last week in the green piece over there by Lake Ontario, I grew up a bit further south where the men are orange and basketball and lacrosse are king. It is a beautiful part of the state and surprisingly similar to where I live now, minus all of the snow.

Editor’s Picks

Jim from Wanderlust Journey presents Checked Baggage Fees List, this hit home for me this past week. Travelling with two kids we had our luggage plus child seats. Don’t forget that you can check child car seats for FREE! We always use a travel bag with our car seat and then through a bunch of necessities in with it, like diapers and wipes. They would otherwise take up a good bit of room in regular luggage.

Chris from Stumble Forward presents Buying A Timeshare Vs All Inclusive Resorts: Which Is Better, This was a pretty interesting comparison. My wife, kids, and I are all going to an all inclusive resort later in the year and look forward to the “included benefits.” One thing to keep in mind is the amount of alcohol you would normally consume on a vacation. If you drink a lot you can really maximize the value of all inclusive.  (please don’t get drunk though just to make it more worth while…. even if I might 😉 )

Jaime from Eventual Millionaire presents What I Learned from the Prosperity Game. I don’t know what it was about this that really caught my eye. I think it was the idea of going through and trying to determine how you would spend exorbitant amounts of money. What would you do if you had to spent $1,000,000 in one day? I can’t even begin to fathom how I would unload that much cash in a day, but would you really be getting something you wanted?

J. Money from Budgets Are Sexy presents To DINK or Not to DINK, and by DINK he is talking about dual income no kids. Having just traveled with two kids for a week, on my own I really realize what it takes to raise and care for a family. I wouldn’t trade it for the world and I really don’t think you should make your determination on whether or not to have kids based solely on finances or fear of not having enough money. If you don’t want kids that is cool with me, but if you do want kids don’t fool yourself into thinking it is in your best interest not too because of money.

Paul Williams from Provident Planning presents Raising a Cow for Beef: Month 10. This was pretty wild. For all of you animal lovers don’t look into this cows cute little eyes, he is destined to be steak. I have never heard of someone raising a single cow for slaughter. As you can see from this breakdown there is a lot inefficiencies in managing a single animal that are overcome when dealing with a herd but all the same this is a neat experiment. I don’t think the wife would let me keep a cow in the back yard though.


Jeremy from Generation X Finance presents Caretaking As a Career Option – What’s In It For You?.

Kristia from Family Balance Sheet presents Are You Wasting Time and Preventing Yourself From Your Million Dollar Dream?, and says, “A lesson learned from successful million-dollar small business owners.”

The Financial Blogger from The Financial Blogger presents Sometimes, Not Asking for a Raise is the Best Strategy to Get One, and says, “Say what? This eager young Gen Y TFB won’t ask for anything? Does this even make sense? I actually think that this is the best strategy to get a raise this year 😉 . I fought so much last year that I thought of giving my boss a break. You know why? Here’s why:”

Money Management

Daniel from Sweating The Big Stuff presents I Went To Bank Heaven Today, and says, “A daydream about getting back at the banks!

Grad Money Matters presents Ah, the Financial Implications of a Dreamer Marrying an Uber-Realist….

Squirrelers from presents Saving is Great, but Don’t Forget to Make Money Too!, and says, “Many of us focus on ways to save, but let’s not forget that we need to make the money that we want to save!”

2 Cents from Balance Junkie presents Have We Become a Society of Financial Adolescents?, and says, “Here’s a comparison of the psychological characteristics of teens and the financial habits of our modern culture. See any similarities?”

Bob from Christian Finances presents 12 factors that affect your homeowner insurance rates, and says, “An important part of any good financial plan is to have a goal for moving forward, and also to have a good defensive financial plan. Of course, insurance is a key component in financial defense…”

Austin Morgan from Foreigner’s Finances presents Why You Need an Emergency Fund, and says, “It’s the surgeries, broken water heaters, and lost jobs that require our finances to go in to a spiral. This post examines how an emergency fund can prop up your finances in the face of life’s unexpected twists. ”


Pop from Pop Economics presents Why you procrastinate, and says, “This story is about procrastination. Why do we do it even thought we know it’s bad for us and can make things worse? What kinds of people procrastinate more than others?”

Ray @ Financial Highway from Financial Highway presents Beware the Debit Card, and says, “While credit cards are much maligned in the personal finance community, use of debit cards come with their own set of problems that can catch you unawares if you do not know how these things really work?”

The Erie Canal runs (ran) 363 miles from Albany, NY to Buffalo, NY. A segment of the canal ran through where I grew up as a kid. The photo here is actually from just outside the town I grew up in. I have actually been on this very spot. It was pretty cool to find the picture while working on this theme.


The Mighty Bargain Hunter presents Review of Gregory Karp’s The 1-2-3 Money Plan, and says, “Just what the title says! No surprises here … ;)”


The Modern Gal presents Have You Become More Financially Risk Averse.

Darren from MORE than Finances presents Coverdell Education Savings Accounts – What Are They And How Do They Work?, and says, “Most parents hope to send their kids to college one day. But with rising costs, they look for different ways of saving to afford it. One method is through the Coverdell Education Savings Account. What is it? How does it work? What are some of its benefits and drawbacks?”

Kristina from DINKS Finance presents What Type of Investor are You?, and says, “If you don’t know what type of investor you are, ask yourself – “Am I willing to take risk?”

RJ Weiss from Gen Y Wealth presents The One Document That Every Successful Investor Has, and says, “Although your situation might be fairly simple right now, as you age, life begins to get a little more complex. Your investment policy statement will act as your compass to your financial plan.

Eric from Narrow Bridge presents How IPOs Work: A Tesa Motors Case Study, and says, “A look at how IPOs work for both the company and investors and how you can buy into next week’s Tesla Motors IPO.”

Jeff Rose from Good Financial Cents presents Can You Roll Over Your Old 401k Into Your New 401k, and says, “Changing jobs? Have questions on what you can or can’t do with your “old” 401k? Should you roll it over into an IRA, cash it out, or roll it into an existing plan. Here are a few tips.”

Mike Piper from Obvlivious Investor presents Are ETFs Bad for Investors?, and says, “Much ado has been made about the ways in which ETFs are being misused. But is the rise in ETF popularity really such a bad thing?”

Dividends Value presents Why We Are Dividend Growth Investors, and says, “We have all heard it… Stodgy, for old people, yawn, boring! These have all been used to describe dividend growth investing. As a dividend growth investor, I sometimes think our strategy is the most misunderstood. Periodically, it is good to remind ourselves why we are dividend growth investors.”

Panda Mike from Green Panda Treehouse presents Why Asset Allocation Is So Important, and says, “Can’t you just pick a few stock market indexes, build your portfolio and open your account statement in 30 years just before your retirement? If it was so simple, I would not have a job anymore 😉 Find out why asset allocation is so important”

Dividend Growth Investor presents Five Dividend Stocks which beat Index Funds , and says, “There are several issues with indexing; some of it stemming from the fact that decisions affecting inclusion of firms are not made in accordance with a consistent strategy in mind. Back at the top of the internet bubble, many tech companies were added at inflated prices, only to be removed when prices were at their lows. This excessive turnover lowers portfolio returns. In fact, if the S&P 500 never added or removed any of its original components, it would have outperformed the results of the S&P 500 over the past 50 years.”

Lake placid which was home to the 1932 and 1980 Winter Olympics is well known for its skiing. It is one of only three places to have hosted the Olympics twice. In addition to skiing Lake Placid is often used as a starting point for climbing the 46 high peaks of the Adirondack Mountains.


Jason from One Money Design presents Benefits of Personal Budget Tracking Software, and says, “Budget tracking software helps save time, improve accuracy and can help you learn more about your spending habits(good or bad).”

Funny about Money presents How Do You Organize Your Budgeting, and says, “Funny wonders if she’s getting altogether too OCD about tracking budget items.”

Real Estate

MD from Studenomics presents How Young People Can Get a Home Mortgage.

Money Beagle from Money Beagle presents Homeowners, Are You Treading Water?.


Michael from The DoughRoller presents How 5 Financial Blunders Will Affect Your Credit Score, and says, “Depending on your current credit score, these five mistakes could cost you thousands of dollars over the long-run”

Sean from Grow Money presents How to Deal With Credit Card Debt.

PT from PT Money presents The Best Cash Back Credit Cards, and says, “A thorough review of some of the better cash back cards available today.”


Sun from The Sun’s Financial Diary presents Financial Challenges for the Class of 2010.

Ace from Ace of Wealth presents The Secrets of Fighting Impulse Purchases, and says, “With as much as 70% of all in store purchases being impulse purchases, it can put a huge dent in anyones budget. Being aware of why you do it is just as important as how to prevent it. Make yourself better prepared for impulse purchases. Learn how it happens and use these tips to prevent it. Your wallet will thank you.”

Jill from My Dollar Plan presents Flexible Spending Account Changes on the Way, and says, “This is a great debriefing of the changes coming to FSA’s as part of the new health care bill.”

The Adirondack mountains are located in North East New York and are contained within the 6.1 million acres of the Adirondack Park. The park contains both the 46 high peaks and the actual Lake Placid. The 46 high peaks are the 46 peaks climbed by Robert and George Marshall from 1918 to 1924.


Tom @ Canadian Finance Blog from Canadian Finance Blog presents How Small Savings Can Make A Big Difference, and says, “Reducing bills can make a big difference. A couple small savings can have the same effect as a big raise at work!”

Kevin from Financially Poor presents Ask and you shall receive.


The Smarter Wallet from The Smarter Wallet presents Are There Benefits To Payday Advance Loans?, and says, “Payday loans are dangerous, but could there actually be benefits to using them? Here’s a contrarian view of payday loans, a high risk form of debt that a lot of people misuse. Perhaps there is a “right way” to using them…”

Silicon Valley Blogger from The Digerati Life presents Fix Your Bad Credit Yourself or Use a Credit Repair Service?, and says, “Should
you repair your own credit or hire someone to help? Here’s a discussion.”

FMF from Free Money Finance presents The Cruel World of Payday Loans, and says, “The worst of the worst when it comes to accumulating debt — payday loans!”


Jason from Live Real, Now presents I Smell a Scam.

Neal Frankle from Wealth Pilgrim presents Should You Use A Professional Trustee For Your Trust?, and says, “Naming a professional trustee for your living trust is a dangerous proposition. Let me share an example.”

Craig Ford from Money Help For Christians presents What To Do When You Have A Late Estimated Tax Payment, and says, “A how to guide for those who forgot to make their estimated tax payments.”


1 Tom @ Canadian Finance Blog June 28, 2010 at 7:48 am

Thanks for hosting Kyle!

I went to Buffalo for a half day when visiting Niagara Falls, though I also haven’t been to New York City.

2 Miranda June 28, 2010 at 7:55 am

Thanks for including my piece in Financial Highway! I lived in Syracuse while getting my M.A., and my husband is from a town in the Catskills, about half an hour from Albany. We have noticed that many people simply assume we lived in New York City as well. (We do like to visit NYC.)

3 Funny about Money June 28, 2010 at 8:10 am

Interesting photos! My mother grew up in Glens Falls, but I’ve never been there. It looks like a lovely area.

Thanks for including Funny’s query about the exquisite details of budgeting.

4 Jaime @ Eventual Millionaire June 28, 2010 at 8:38 am

Wow thanks for making my post an editors pick!

I also have to say I COMPLETELY relate. I used to live in Rochester, NY and I would say I’m from New York. Everyone would say, “Wow New York City..” I had never been to NYC either! It’s funny that people tend to forget the whole state!

Of course the funny thing is in about an hour I leave for NYC for the first time. 🙂

5 J. Money June 28, 2010 at 8:45 am

Wow, never been to NYC eh? Pretty impressive. I can def see how annoying it would be when asked all the time. One of these days ur gonna have to go so u have an answer for them 😉

Thx for the Editors Pick too!!! That’s awesome bro.

6 Chris June 28, 2010 at 9:43 am

Thanks for including my post in the editors picks this week, Buying a Timeshare Vs. All Inclusive Resorts. It’s been a while since I’ve gotten that award. I hope the trip was good, New York sounds like a great place to visit. I will defiantly be sending you a link back and a well deserved stumble as well.


7 Balance Junkie June 28, 2010 at 10:09 am

Thanks for hosting and for including my article. I can remember visiting the Thousand Islands (Canadian side) as a small child and hearing that New York was just across the border. I kept looking for the Statue of Liberty, but I never saw her! 😉

8 Dividend Growth Investor June 28, 2010 at 10:17 am

Thanks for hosting and including my article on Dividend Stocks.

Best Regards,

Dividend Growth Investor

9 MD June 28, 2010 at 10:47 am

I live close to the border, yet I’ve never been to any of these places. Shame on me. Thanks for the mention though.

10 Darren June 28, 2010 at 11:30 am

Nice, I’ve never been to New York myself.

Thanks for putting this together and including my post!

11 Money Obedience June 28, 2010 at 11:36 am

Great collection of links and nice photos! The Lake Placid area is my favorite destination for rock climbing. Since I live close to New York City, it is fairly easy for me to get to Lake Placid, where I enjoy multi-pitch climbs and ice climbing in the winter.

12 [email protected] June 28, 2010 at 12:22 pm

I used to travel to upstate NY(Rochester, Buffalo) with my retail job, althougth because I was working so I didn’t really get to a chance to explore.

Thanks for hosting and including my article.

13 Ace June 28, 2010 at 12:40 pm

Thanks for hosting Kyle. Also thanks for including my article in the carnival!

14 Paul Williams June 28, 2010 at 12:49 pm

Thanks for picking my article as an editor’s choice, Kyle! I’m glad you found it interesting.

Regarding upstate NY – I had a friend in college who lived just north of NYC. He hated it when I’d tell him he was from upstate NY. I told him anything north of NYC was “upstate”. 🙂

15 Revanche June 28, 2010 at 1:01 pm

Thanks for hosting, Kyle! I used to hear stories about how gorgeous Upstate was, even more than how fun and exciting the city was. Glad to hear further confirmation.

16 Squirrelers June 28, 2010 at 9:14 pm

Thanks for hosting, and for including my article.

The state of New York is certainly a story of contrasts, as life is quite different depending on where you are. The perception of the whole state being just like the NYC area is funny:)

17 Lakita | Personal Finance Journey June 29, 2010 at 8:25 am

I’m originally from Buffalo, NY – excellent theme! I used to get the same response you did….when you tell people you’re from NY, they automatically assume NYC! haha

18 Craig August 8, 2010 at 12:30 am

So when you come into a plane to NYC you land in Queens, which is one of the five boroughs of NYC. What do you see on the highway? A sign that points you in the direction of NYC!! I lived in Queens most of my life and the city doesn’t even give me credit!

New York is a huge state full of nature and beauty. I’d love to go visit the Adirondacks.

Comments on this entry are closed.

Previous post:

Next post: